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#861 atlHUSKER

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE(harstad @ Jun 10 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hahahaha. Odd speaking style?? HAHAHA. You can see what you ate for breakfast you;re head is so far up your ass. and you bring up Bush! What a fucking double standard. Oh, thats right. Bush is down home Texas (sorta) and Obama is a highly educated Leftist Muslim. I get it now.

Obama is all about whimsical platitudes about change and hope and all that BS that niggers with no job and 6 kids, lazy college students and people who feel bad for all the poor black people who had to suffer through slavery. People will see thorough his BS soon enough.

now this is comedy GOLD. you're giving me a hard time for "having my head up my ass" meanwhile spewing the exact same talking points McCain has said (almost word for word) in his speeches.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 01:35 PM

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now this is comedy GOLD. you're giving me a hard time for "having my head up my ass" meanwhile spewing the exact same talking points McCain has said (almost word for word) in his speeches.

glass houses, chocolate foam, glass houses.


Sounds like a smart guy. I dont listen to McCain speeches. I have heard a few Obama speeches because he's on TV everytime I watch the news. I said what he's about 6 months ago almost word for word on here. look it up.

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McCain is an idiot.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 03:15 PM

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Sounds like a smart guy. I dont listen to McCain speeches. I have heard a few Obama speeches because he's on TV everytime I watch the news. I said what he's about 6 months ago almost word for word on here. look it up.

here some talking points for you.

Obama is an idiot.
McCain is an idiot.
Clinton is an idiot.
You're an idiot if you vote for Obama or any Democrat. Unless your poor then I forgive you.

so, i take it that you'll be voting for the other 'idiot'? You know there will be conservatives to vote for, right? - they're just not listed above....you don't have to vote party line, you know...

jus' sayin

and i'm having a tuff time finding when you've ever used the phrase "whimsical platitudes "...could you please point that post out to me? tia
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 10:47 AM

instead of starting a new thread, figured i'd tag onto this one...for those of you that are repub's (read as: all but about 2 of you) what do you think regarding the common theme about elections (i.e. each candidate moves towards the middle) versus what's happening with McCain?

Especially with the yesterday's oil drilling statements, it seems that McCain is moving more to the right as the campaign continues on. I know you guys and conservatives may like this, but I'm curiouse as-to what you think this may net as an outcome, considering the "common knowlege" that your chances of winning the election are usually better when you move to the middle and not to the left/right...

yea, yea, dumb theoretical question...but we gotta talk about other things than how much of an idiot Uncle Charlie is...
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE(atlHUSKER @ Jun 18 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
instead of starting a new thread, figured i'd tag onto this one...for those of you that are repub's (read as: all but about 2 of you) what do you think regarding the common theme about elections (i.e. each candidate moves towards the middle) versus what's happening with McCain?

Especially with the yesterday's oil drilling statements, it seems that McCain is moving more to the right as the campaign continues on. I know you guys and conservatives may like this, but I'm curiouse as-to what you think this may net as an outcome, considering the "common knowlege" that your chances of winning the election are usually better when you move to the middle and not to the left/right...

yea, yea, dumb theoretical question...but we gotta talk about other things than how much of an idiot Uncle Charlie is...


McCain is one who has, generally, expressed his own views, and not necessarily those of the party. I think this is just another example of that. That being said, I think the country does want a President who is closer to middle ground. Unfortunately, both parties are controlled by their extreme elements. Still, McCain is much closer to the middle than Obama, regardless of the later's rhetoric. Just look at their voting records.

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 10:57 AM

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McCain is one who has, generally, expressed his own views, and not necessarily those of the party. I think this is just another example of that. That being said, I think the country does want a President who is closer to middle ground. Unfortunately, both parties are controlled by their extreme elements. Still, McCain is much closer to the middle than Obama, regardless of the later's rhetoric. Just look at their voting records.


i would agree with that. but perception is a motherfucker...and so far the repub's haven't been able to sell that "most liberal" tag as much as they'd like to have by now...maybe it'll catch on as the months continue but it just hasn't stuck like it has in the past yet...

as for McCain: objectively, I see his problem as follows - whereas it is important to move toward the middle to win a general election, he still struggles with rallying his base - therefore he needs to continue with strides to the right, thus hurting his chances of "moving to the middle" and furthing that bad perception...

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE(RedHell @ Jun 18 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm voting for Spider Man, or maybe Thor. I know my vote for either of those two would accomplish more than voting for anybody running, except possibly Barr.

I thought Barr was your guy... (?)....no?
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE(atlHUSKER @ Jun 18 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i would agree with that. but perception is a motherfucker...and so far the repub's haven't been able to sell that "most liberal" tag as much as they'd like to have by now...maybe it'll catch on as the months continue but it just hasn't stuck like it has in the past yet...

as for McCain: objectively, I see his problem as follows - whereas it is important to move toward the middle to win a general election, he still struggles with rallying his base - therefore he needs to continue with strides to the right, thus hurting his chances of "moving to the middle" and furthing that bad perception...


Not too mention that he's older than dirt and is swimming upstream against a two term Republican presidency.

He is the better candidate, by a wide margin...but the odds are stacked against him.

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:06 AM

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Not too mention that he's older than dirt and is swimming upstream against a two term Republican presidency.

He is the better candidate, by a wide margin...but the odds are stacked against him.


aside from the "better candidate" part: true dat


actually, this is my "fear" (if you want to call it that)....McCain will lose (that's a reality)...but that will send a huge message to the Repub's to shore up their conservative and religeous base and they will come back in 2010 & 2012 a force to be reckoned with. quite honestly, McCain is the best repub president a Dem could hope for, because when (not if) he loses, the next repub president will not look anything like McCain, politically (and therefore, be nowhere near meeting them in the middle on their issues)....
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:12 AM

The more I read/see/hear about Obama, the more evident it becomes that he is a lot of thunder and no rain. The young, the disenfranchised, the uneducated, and the minorities are certainly drinking his kool-aid, however. It will be interesting to see the Dem's actually govern instead of just bitching about everything the Repub's do. Whether Obama can actually follow through on all his change/hope message (and if he will ever explain how he actuallly plans on doing it) is another story. Based on the Dem's history in such matters, it will certainly be entertaining to see the shoe on the other foot.

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:19 AM

you'r right, that's (i think) a general concern re: the dems as of late. they've been that barking dog chasing the car the whole way. It'll be interesting once the car stops and they catch up with it....what do they do.

but i guess the same was able to say about the repubs in 2000...so we'll see.

Personally, I don't think Obama harms the country (same goes with McCain really)...but I think it's a matter of "do we progress" or "do we stay idle"....which probably then chimes into your "thunder/rain" analogy...and, really, that's all yet to be seen...
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 12:05 PM

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you'r right, that's (i think) a general concern re: the dems as of late. they've been that barking dog chasing the car the whole way. It'll be interesting once the car stops and they catch up with it....what do they do.

but i guess the same was able to say about the repubs in 2000...so we'll see.

Personally, I don't think Obama harms the country (same goes with McCain really)...but I think it's a matter of "do we progress" or "do we stay idle"....which probably then chimes into your "thunder/rain" analogy...and, really, that's all yet to be seen...



obama + dem congress = harming country...the repubs did it...so will the dems...i'd hate to see two wrongs in the attempt to make a right here...maybe if dean has a heart attack, kennedy's body fails in chemo, byrd gets lynched in retaliation for his kkk ways and pelosi's face falls off, we might be ok...

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE(atlHUSKER @ Jun 18 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you'r right, that's (i think) a general concern re: the dems as of late. they've been that barking dog chasing the car the whole way. It'll be interesting once the car stops and they catch up with it....what do they do.

but i guess the same was able to say about the repubs in 2000...so we'll see.

Personally, I don't think Obama harms the country (same goes with McCain really)...but I think it's a matter of "do we progress" or "do we stay idle"....which probably then chimes into your "thunder/rain" analogy...and, really, that's all yet to be seen...



Define progress and stay idle.

I ask because there are lot of things we can do here in the USA about oil if Congress and The President push for it. Off shore drilling, Shale, and Drilling in Alaska are forms of progress. Which of the candidates will move forward with any or all of these options?
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 12:38 PM

well, the oil topic - imo - is at most, topic #3. The 2 bigger issues would be economic stability/growth and foreign affairs/conflicts...yes, I know Oil touches on both of those...but is still a monster of its own. So when I said "progress" and "idle" - it's a very broad reference that - yes - can go many different directions. So, for oil, the 3 you listed above is likely under McCain (though I believe he still opposed ANWR...unless he's changed on that too)...however, the part you say about Congress and POTUS is more to the general point I was making. It's not about the ideas of each candidate (that's where the debate is) - moreso, a matter of those individual ideas remaining idle or actually getting passed into action...
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 01:29 PM

I'm voting for gridlock in D.C.

It seems the only time we get in trouble is when all three branches agree with each other.


Well, that would be my rationale if I thought any of this shit actually made any kind of a difference in this country.

Thank God I have a brain and realize it doesn't.


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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:04 PM

Well, Barak has showed his true colors today.

He's nothing more than a common liar.

But he's a politician, from Chicago, why does this surprise anyone?

His refusal of public financing is 180 from an earlier promise to stick to public financing for his campaign.


Also, if he loses does Detroit burn? Will Black people run around saying he lost because he's Black? Are we not allowed to say he's a commie bastard and I'll be damned if I'm gonna vote for an elitist Marxist prick?

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:05 AM

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Well, Barak has showed his true colors today.

He's nothing more than a common liar.

But he's a politician, from Chicago, why does this surprise anyone?

His refusal of public financing is 180 from an earlier promise to stick to public financing for his campaign.
Also, if he loses does Detroit burn? Will Black people run around saying he lost because he's Black? Are we not allowed to say he's a commie bastard and I'll be damned if I'm gonna vote for an elitist Marxist prick?

what's Chicago got to do with it? the rest of the country all of a sudden have honest politicians? it's an oxymoron in-and-of-itself...


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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:26 AM

Most observers of the political scene acknowledge that a unique brand of politics is played in Chicago. One example is that they are so accomodating that they let dead folks vote there.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:11 AM

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Most observers of the political scene acknowledge that a unique brand of politics is played in Chicago. One example is that they are so accomodating that they let dead folks vote there.


A major tenet of the Democratic Party...

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:15 AM

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A major tenet of the Democratic Party...

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